In this episode, Dr. Rena Malik, MD sits down with Debby Herbenick to explore the fascinating phenomenon of exercise-induced ...

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Exercise-Induced Orgasms? Sex expert explains “Coregasms”

you wrote a paper on exercise induced orgasm oh that is a fun one let's talk about that because I haven't talked about that on my platform yet and I think it is a very interesting phenomenon it's fascinating it is fascinating yeah so somewhere close to 10% of Americans um have experienced at least one exercise induced orgasm in their lives and um we've published a few studies on this it kind of drives me crazy that there's not more research on this there's like very little I think it's like yours like one of I don't think I've seen another paper on it no and like and and I've done a lot of like kind of innovative like early stage stuff that gets other people excited and then they follow suit and do it too and nobody's ever followed suit on this and I just keep hoping like isn't doesn't anyone else find this as intriguing or interesting so I hear from people all the time about their experiences with exercise and de to orgasm so I've done research I did publish a book some years ago called the corgasm workout I find it fascinating and I think I hear from people because I'm one of the only people who's researched it but it's such an interesting way that the body works when we started studying it we thought it was only women because that's kind of who was represented in popular culture about it but very quickly when our first study came out like the emails poured in from all over the world cuz like the study got picked up by media everywhere so I was getting I was having to use Google Translate a lot to like translate people's email so I understood them and we heard from a lot of men and so we've since published um research involving men too and you know what's interesting about them to me I there's a lot of things but they don't usually have like erections when they have their exercise induced orgasm they go from flaccid or very very slightly penises to ejaculation so and those who have experienced with prostate stimulation which isn't a lot of them but those who do will say it feels a lot more like a prostate orgasm than the orgasms I would get like through my penis through intercourse so they're ejaculating they're not just orgasming they're they're ejaculating really yeah which is really difficult for the males because it is then Messier and it's and so it's very tricky when it happens in public so I said oh it's a really fun topic well it isn't it isn't it's really fun mostly for I would say quite a lot of the women and it's really complicated for the men so when the men can't control it and it's like in a public space like for example I think of like a a professional male gymnast you know who I heard from and that was very tricky for him right he has to wear tight clothing like leotards for his you know unitard professional gy profal gymnast and there are certain aspects of his you know his training routine that would cause him to ejaculate not all the time but it was uncontrollable so that was really really difficult for him you know I've heard from quite a few men who are in the service really difficult for them now it got better since the Army got rid of their situp speed test but when they had a sit-up speed test there were some men who were failing the situp speed test I mean I heard from like Army Physicians who were trying to like help some of their their people get through some of the the training that they had to do and so a challenge is that we don't fully understand the mechanisms which again for those researchers out there who want to study this I think there's a lot more to learn because there are some people who really really would like to better control it even though for the the women it's much more often you know invisible to others so those who do enjoy it feel like they have the room to enjoy it it's still not enjoyable for everyone and so and we talk about that like in the corgasm workout I say look not everyone wants to have one of these but some people do and some people just want to experience the arousal even even if you don't have an orgasm but um you know there was like a you know somebody I heard from whose daughter was a like a college athlete she was a runner and her college scholarship is for running but part of her running workout she was sometimes having org like the orgasms and the exercise and orgasms and they got in the way of her training so that is not only an exercise issue for her and a training issue but it also gets to like her college scholarship issue like if she can't do this and compete what does that mean for her ability to stay a student athlete so can people train themselves to get these orgasms versus train themselves not to yeah so we're working on that I mean I will say that i' I've had a lot of nice one-on-one emails with people who are trying not to and for some of them we can find ways not to for some it's easy enough for it's like it's one particular thing that does it they just take that out of their workout I mean they can't find a way to do that thing and so it just is or they can find a way but they they have to kind of be aware of at what point is like the Tipping Point that will cause the orgasm so they can say oh like I mean there are some people who are like light Clockwork on the eth or 9th unassisted pull-up this will happen so I'm going to do that when it's when I feel like it but when I don't feel like it like if I'm working out with a trainer let's say I'm going to stop at 6 just to be safe um how do you tell your trainer you know you're like oh I can only do six right yeah I mean some people say like you know my trainer gets upset with me so I've tried to do some Outreach to like really to like personal trainers and folks in kinesiology and exercise science because I have heard from trainers who said wow like I've now wonder like did any of my clients have this and did I push them too far too hard to do something that they didn't want to do for this reason when I maybe I thought they just weren't like willing to work hard you know maybe this is a reason some clients haven't come back when I've pushed them in some areas right cuz people don't always want to tell their trainer what's happening with their bodies do we think it's a friction issue or do we think it's a pelvic floor activation that's causing probably neither neither yeah we don't know but there was a little bit of research it's one of my big research regrets that we never got to to go further with this but there was some sense that like it could be like an issue of like different types of development like ways you've developed one side versus the other side of your core abdominal muscles so I was getting much more into like a deep dive on this exercise induced orgasm stuff when I realized rough sex and shoking were were taking off and I and I mean to be honest I just had to kind of switch and turn my attention to what felt like a really urgent public health issue so I do hope to return one day to the exercise induced orgasm but um research but most people will tell us that it does not feel like a friction thing to them I mean some people will say oh sure like if I'm wearing compression shorts it's it's more likely but mostly they will say it's very internal it's very deep some people will describe which is probably more of a hormonal Association like a tingling down their core I don't even remember you know some of the the issues that I had connected with other people in different fields who were like oh I know what hormone it is when you feel this type of vertical tingling apparently it's a very specific thing that I don't remember but it is fun and pleasurable for many people the corgasm workout book wasn't about teaching people to have corgasm specifically cuz we haven't we didn't find that we could for the most part but we did find that like you could help people adjust their exercise routine in ways that they experience greater arousal and the reason that could be beneficial is so that you could on your own learn how to sort of maneuver your body in ways that you could kind of enhance and embrace your own arousal even just in sex right so we did have people who we interviewed who were like you know a nice benefit of like the fact that I just naturally right have these exercise induced orgasms is that now I know how to manipulate my core and I've been able to like experience orgasm more regularly during intercourse so it's kind of interesting like they're like I can do these like micro movements or tension or just be like more like a for some it's like a body position like a way that they just kind of hold their torso differently that they can have more arousal even and just be kind of in the mood during sex I would love if people watching this on YouTube could leave some comments below if they feel comfortable about their experience cuz this is fascinating I think yes someone should research this it is fascinating and and could be beneficial in in the way you're describing to learn your body and to be able to utilize that to have better orgasms more readily when you're with your partner or by yourself or whatever right but but at the end of the day like being able to use that information could be extremely valuable and then the people who are struggling I mean that sounds horrible and and certainly pay attention to I guess what I'm taking away is pay attention to what is causing it and and step back around that or try to figure out what movement is causing it and try to work your way around that yep absolutely is there something else that you think we should cover today that we haven't talked about I mean there's so much we could talk about million there's so many things but I think other maybe more positive or exciting things that we can end on yeah you know I think when it comes to kids you know when it comes to kids teenagers young adults I mean and we talked a lot about the tough parts of parenting but I do want to encourage parents like think about what you want for your kids right and common things parents will say is I want them to have like healthy relationships I want them to like experience love you know if they want it I want them to feel comfortable with their own bodies and not ashamed by their own bodies I want them to like feel like they can talk about sex with their partners with their Healthcare Providers one day like all these things like their bodies and stuff so so if you kind of think about what you want for them for me as a parent and as a professional it helps to think about how you get there right and like if you if you want your kids to know accurate terms for their bodies start reading them age appropriate kids books you know at the you know like amazing you is a really fun one and you know if you want them to have good boundaries around their bodies there's nice ones like it's my body what I say goes and so start those because not only do they give your kids a resource but as a parent especially when they're really little you get some practice saying those things out loud and you get some practice having these conversations and building a really really healthy trusting relationship with your child so they know they can talk with you about boundaries about consent about their their bodies about love about relationships about how babies are made and just keep growing that right I mean keep the door open if you react in a way that you wish you hadn't reacted and you shame them or you blame them or you get upset think about like what you know a lot of people call rupture and repair so you have that moment and then you come back later and you say I'm really sorry that I reacted the way that I did the other day let's try that again yeah and then you you also you're modeling and you're showing them that in relationships we make mistakes sometimes but we can reconnect yes I do that all the time cuz I make mistakes all the time we all do right we um I do want to talk about one more thing that we didn't talk about so in the setting of rising rough sex we also know and one of your very popular studies showed that young people are having less sex you know I think we don't know exactly why that is but what are your thoughts on why that is and and what should we be concerned about I mean I think there's lots of reasons you know that fewer people are having partnered sex these days and we're seeing that around the country we found that in the US W but others have found that in the UK and Japan and Sweden too so there's probably a few things one I do think that some of it has to do with the rise of rough sex because I hear from young people you know I've only had one hookup experience or one sexual experience and I started making out with somebody and they started like hitting me and slapping me and calling me names and this doesn't feel good so I think there's probably some small percentage of young people who are opting out because they've had some negative experiences I think there's another tiny percent of people but still very important percent of people who feel a lot more comfortable with asexual identification than did 20 years ago and even if that's just half percent or 1% of people all of these different things add up to an overall population decline in partnered sex so you know more people saying hey like I don't really feel attraction toward other people and I'm okay with that and like so that's great right so that like we want to support people developing what feels right for them I think there's also as we all know people are spending a whole lot more time on their devices and it doesn't account for everything but it does for some I think many of us who have lived long enough had say yeah 20 years ago no you just went to bed you didn't get into your bed and like Doom scroll you know and things like that and then also around technology we all like most of us not all we most of us stream a lot more shows so if I think back to like you know before you had like all the streaming shows that you do now and you had to like wait you know for Thursday night to see your show or night or watch a commercial that was longer than 30 seconds you just didn't spend as much time in front of your TV as I think it can be easy to do when like your a new season of your favorite show drops and now you and your partner might watch like 5 to 10 hours of TV that week so I think sometimes just you know remembering that for those of us who you know want to have a really pleasurable highquality sex life with and most people actually either want about the kind of sex they're having or a little bit more there's not as usually as many people who are like no a lot less but some do but if you want a little more you know think about where you can make space for it where you can decrease stress in your life where you can focus on connection with your partner where you can build trust and kindness with your partner but you also need that time like away from so much social media so much streaming so much stuff that kind of just grabs your attention so that you can focus on one another do you think it's even before you're in relationships where like you're so I guess feeling satisfied that you can get and this is one of my theories is that you can get porn you can watch porn you can feel sexually aroused and you can ejaculate an orgasm much more easily by yourself and you don't have to then go up to someone and speak to them and ask them out and get rejected or deal with those sort of challenges that come with courting and trying to date someone and get them to have sex with you yeah I mean I think that's certainly possible you know and I one thing that many many college professors who teach human sexuality here these days is also kind of along those lines you're talking about problems with courtship and stuff is we hear a lot of young people say I don't even know how to date like I literally don't know they will say I don't know what you're supposed to say when you ask somebody out I don't know if you do get somebody to go to lunch with you or dinner with you like what do you say when you're together so they're really looking for a script and I've heard from a lot of parents of teenagers who say wow I'm kind of surprised that my 16-year-old's not dating they're just kind of late they s like they're late but no we're seeing an overall delay than it was you know 10 or 15 years ago it's not just a pandemic thing it was starting already and so kids really don't have a lot of experience connecting with each other away from devices again I think if we can delay a lot of device use and once they have it try to limit where it possible and not just by rules but asking kids like how do you feel when you're on your phone or device like you know and making sure they get experience having face-to-face contact with other kids their age and then supporting them with like literally telling them sometimes the things that you say when you're getting to know people and even looking for positive shows like I think the heartbreaker show was a really nice teen drama never have I ever was a really nice one too that showed like some real conversations about about like talking to like someone you have a crush on or talking when things end and also showing how those conversations can be super awkward when you're like in 10th Grade and they get more mature when you're in 12th grade yeah and so and even your thoughts around it change right that was kind of cool in that that one yeah

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