well I have heard a lot of people tell me that it's it's all about calories it's calories is everything right and maybe that terorist you could see why they're saying it because if you see that in a me metabolic Ward whether you're consuming carbs proteins fats ultimately if you control the calories you control the weight and that's been proven over so many randomized controlled studies but then you have to go into the real world you know like I have the the studies that show me how well condoms work in terms of contraception and then I have real world numbers which lower still effective but lower because people don't use them right or they say they use them and they lied what have you so there's the real world implications so I think like calories in calories out in the research clinical World metabolic world that's key that's what works and then you have the real world and it gets a little bit more muddled and nuanced I agree with that although I'm not 100% sold that it makes no difference because if you give somebody a hundred units of insulin and reduce their calories by 200 they'll still gain weight well because the numbers are not the same you're giv way more insulin so calories yeah